Learning from Vedas - Backup

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NHRC sends notice to TN over 'caste' wrist bands http://goo.gl/Iw61Dy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ru0MX-uoTg This is one of my favorite Dance piece: - read this introduction and then watch - instead of an ordinary प्रेक्षकः you can become a सहृदयः (connoisseur) of a great art form -  "भरतनाट्यम्"  - enjoy... This "भरतनाट्यम्" (bharatanaatyam) piece aptly named as "नवरसमोहनः" (navarasa mohana) - means that, श्री कृष्णः (sri. krishna) has in him, imbibed the navarasa (all the nine chief aesthetic experiences). The song starts with the second stanza of Srimad Bhagavata shloka -10.43.16 "रङ्गं विविशतु राजन् गजदन्तवरायुदौ (बलरामकृष्णौ) - "rangam vivishatu raajan gajadanta varaayudau" - this means "both (Balarama & Krisna) entered the arena, Oh King (Parikshit - the incident of slaying of Kamsa is narrated to King Parikshit by Maharshi Sukha) with the tusks of the slain elephant". Rangam means arena, world, playground, stage, etc. here it can also mean that he, Sri Krishna entered the world and th...

KIRON KRISHNAN Yesterday we had discussion over who can be your guru, and your answer was our father who initiated us through Upanayana. Also I had a similar doubt regarding "How to know ones Sva Shaka", for which Abhivadhana was the only answer. Joining the bigger "devil, the Caste System". I recollect KIRON KRISHNAN mentioning this not to be a "Caste by birth". Now connecting these dots, if caste system is not intended to be by birth; its crucial for anyone interested in learning vedas that he knows Sva-Shaka. The Abhivadana seems to be not solving the problem right here, as it is coming out of a lineage. The fathers shaka is passed onto the son. Hows does sva-shaka and caste system fit into the puzzle? Please enlighten.

3 qualities are essential in a जिज्ञासुः to understand the hidden तात्पर्यम् of Vedic passages. - Part 2. Vedas being Apaurusheya (non person authorship). The Rishis who seen Veda mantras  - how can one see a mantra (sound) - yes one can see. It is the vision of a phenomenon and they recorded as it is. When Mathamatician Ramanujan can see formulas shown by Devi Namagiri, the same way Rshi has also 'seen' the mantra. The word seer is the wrong translation of the word - दृष्टा  (from dhaatu "दृश्"). How there is a difference between Hearing, Listening and receiving sound (the degree of selectivity is lost from one to another and the receiver of sound - receives everything voice, noice, music, etc.)  - the same way looking, seeing, and receiving - here also no qualifying of the received - it is just recorded as it is. What is received in one medium (sound vision) is converted and stored in another medium (sound word) - of course all mediums are of Pancha bhoota.  Here th...

वेदार्थनिर्णय: Veda-artha-nirNaya - determining the meanings of Veda - 2 This the rejoinder to the earlier writing on the same subject The Veda since time immemorial followed a "karNa paramparaa" - means shravana, manana, punaruchaarana, paarayana, etc. - [Even though one of the oldest Rig Veda Manuscript collections in Boorja patra (birch bark), estimated to be the oldest Manuscript in the world by scientists and accepted as the UNESCO treasure and estimated to be 2200 years old found in 1931 by the British in Gilgit Kashmir (PoK). Veda forever will be taught-learnt-and passed on through Guru-Shishya - Chanting-listening-Chanting method only. This is the only correct method of learning Veda. This Gilgit MSS collections contain Rig Veda in parts - some in Brahmi and some parts in Sharada scripts. It is to be kept in mind that Sanskrit as a language had no native script and so far we have over 70 scripts identified in which many Sanskrit works were written time to time and reg...

Greatness of Kasi http://periva.proboards.com/thread/10643/ A wonderful writeup http://periva.proboards.com/thread/10643/

Special panel set up to promote Sanskrit http://goo.gl/GlwiV6 -via inshorts

__________________________________________________________________ Ahalya myth - An example of how myths originate __________________________________________________________________ A simple search on the origin of this cruel myth shall put light on one of the many Hindu attempts to blaspheme God and Vedas, for the superiority of their gods and incarnate bands. The mention is made first in Shatapatha Brahmana, Taittiriya Brahmana, Jaimineeya Brahmana, quoting the Subrahmanya formula. Let us look more into the actual sources rather than unreliable Ramayana or other epics or puranas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ahalya - what does it mean? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ hala means a plough, and halya means an arable land or a ploughed land. a-halya , hence means the "unfertile land" or "unploughable land". Ahalya, the barren land, is ...

Interpreting the Vedas - How we do it --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This article is intended for the common people, so I will try my  maximum not to  use technical or difficult Sanskrit terms and confuse the reader. Vedas are the most ancient form of knowledge available to us. To interpret them, therefore, the first thing we should do is to place ourselves in their time, see Vedas in their eyes, and try our maximum not to be biased by the later accounts and other scriptures. __________________________________________________________________        The Vedic language - thinking beyond Classical Sanskrit __________________________________________________________________ Most of the people who claimed to have translated or understood Vedas forget the basic fact that Vedic language is not same as Classical Sanskrit, after Panini. Of them, the Rig Vedic language remains the most archaic specimen of the languag...

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3 qualities are essential in a जिज्ञासुः to understand the hidden तात्पर्यम् of Vedic passages. - Part 1. The word Taatparyam is not purport - because purport is purpose (prayojanam) driven. It is not Conception because conception is concept (abhipraaya /matam) driven. It is also not Signification - because signification is signifier (kritimatvam) driven. So lets not try to translate the word तात्पर्यम् and use it as it is.  प्रज्ञा, विवेकः, श्रद्धा - these three are also not translatables in English. Now how to get these three. Why these 3 - the shastra gives these three as important qualities (among others) for a जिज्ञासुः (the one with the quest to know the ultimate) यस्य नास्ति स्वयं प्रज्ञा शास्त्रं तस्य करोति किम्  (for the one who doesn't have a self intuition, what is the use of shastra to him/her वैराग्यादपि विवेकः बलीयः (sagaciousness is more important than steadfastness - these are free flowing translated words and don't exactly match the meaning of the original word...

वेदार्थनिर्णय: Veda-artha-nirNaya - determining the meanings of Veda - 1 पद-अर्थ-निर्णय (meaning determination of a word) 1. नामादि - नाम, आख्यात, उपसर्ग, निपात - these four are Name, Action root, prefix, etc. the basic building blocks of language - each has some weightage when meanings are determined - again depending on each one's meaning with in a sentence and also based on the context 2. जात्यादि First the word has to be understand within a context whether it refers to जातिः (genre /universal)  व्यक्तिः (individual /specific). E.g.: "Don't kill a cow" - here the word "cow" means the universal not just a specific cow but generally refers to the Cowhood or Cowness. "Bring a cow" here the word "cow" refers to the individual - a specific cow and not "cowness".  - this जातिवादः (मीमांसा)  and जातिविशिष्टव्यक्ति (न्याय) for word meaning determination. In the above itself 2 more things are added for meaning determination - गुण (att...

Father and son, went to a temple, suddenly son shouted after seeing the pillars of Lions at the entrance of the temple "Run Dad, or those Lions will eat us " Dad consoled him saying "they are just statues and wont harm us" Son replied " if those lion statues wont harm us then how could statues of God give us blessings" The father wrote in his diary... "I am still speechless on my childs answer and have started searching for God in Humans instead of statues. -- A good story which I read today. Not sure whether this has been penned by an agnostic or atheist. But forms a good question for discussion. What do you all think about this?

The frog hymn ! Translation : Griffith. (I shall do it later) One can interpret this literary translation by closer analysis. The Brahmins are mocked as "frogs" and the whole poem compares "holy two frogs" with the "guru Brahmin and the muttering student". There are several other instances of sarcasm towards sheer ritualism. Originally shared by Lord Indra Frogs as Brahmins or Brahmins as frogs? Rig Veda 7.103 1. They who lay quiet for a year, the Brahmans who fulfil their vows, The Frogs have lifted up their voice, the voice Parjanya has inspired. 2 What time on these, as on a dry skin lying in the pool's bed, the floods of heaven descended, The music of the Frogs comes forth in concert like the cows lowing with their calves beside them. 3 When at the coming of the Rains the water has poured upon them as they yearned and thirsted, One seeks another as he talks and greets him with cries of pleasure as a son his father. 4 Each of these twain receives th...

This image made me think. Though it maybe making fun of a particular religion, aren't we also doing the same when it comes to rituals? When it comes to anything we follow we hardly employ reasoning.

These are good policies. These must be extended to cover all caste system related cases... Kudos Maharashtra Maharashtra 1st ever to have anti 'social boycott' law http://goo.gl/oGMUC9

What is the literal meaning of Sanskrit word "Suktha"  Please enlighten

Originally shared by KIRON KRISHNAN The Vedic poem of creation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neither did non existence exist, nor did existence exist then; Neither did atmosphere exist, nor the skies beyond. what covered it? where? In whose protection? was there water,  deep and impervious? Neither did death exist, nor did immortality exist then; Neither did night exist, nor the illumined day; Airlessly, by self impulse, That One existed; There was only the One, no other; Darkness existed, covered in darkness. At first, all this was unillumined, unsteady. Enclosed in nothng, was that; Out of heat, was born one, at last. Desire, primarily descended on it; At first, there was the seed, the Mind; They know what is connected with what is not : The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom. They stretched their string across the rays; and know what's below, what's above. By powers of seed w...

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